Can Spammers be Reformed?
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| Add to the anti-spam links | View and Visit other anti-spam sites |Visit the Anti-Spam Web Board | | Interesting Pages | Special Editions | Anti-Spam Assistance Center | Site News | Interactive Pages | Return-Path: <apache@web001.mediacity.com> Received: from mx20.ispchannel.com (208.163.60.30) by cpicket.ns.net with SMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 2.1); Mon, 27 Sep 1999 08:52:09 -0700 Received: (qmail 31987 invoked by uid 200); 27 Sep 1999 07:29:24 -0000 Received: from web001.mediacity.com (205.216.172.2) by mx20.ispchannel.com with SMTP; 27 Sep 1999 07:29:24 -0000 Received: (from apache@localhost) by web001.mediacity.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA11439; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 04:51:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from apache) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 04:51:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199909271151.EAA11439@web001.mediacity.com> To: spam-hater@studio42.com From: raccoon@sba.attmil.ne.jp (William B. Doyle) Subject: Honesty Is The Best Policy Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by William B. Doyle (raccoon@sba.attmil.ne.jp) on Monday, September 27, 1999 at 04:51:37 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- email: raccoon@sba.attmil.ne.jp realname: William B. Doyle subject: Honesty Is The Best Policy Form-ID: Anti-Spam Email Form Message: "Honesty Is The Best Policy" Sir, I am William B. Doyle and find myself the unwitting dupe of a company selling e-mail lists of folks "interested" e-mail concerning products/services. It's lists such as these which result in UCE and/or spam, whatever you choose to call it. I stupidly purchased membership in such a company and sent an inquiry e-mail to folks on 3 of the lists requesting confirmation that indeed they were interested in receiving e-mail concerning products/service. No ad. After 2 days of using these lists, I quickly found out I had been conned, stopped using the lists, deleted them, asked the company to terminate my membership and give me a full refund. They agreed. I also promptly informed my ISP's, website hosts, company etc. of the incident. They all agreed I made a dumb error believing the list company's party line and steered me to acceptable resources and tools to use. How did I know something was wrong? Well, sir, over 33% were undeliverable/user unknown, too many "removes" to count, etc. I had made a mistake and immediately ook actions to correct it and never do so again. Too late. Evidently, one of your graduates or a graduate of a similiar course of instruction is aggressively utilizing the methods and tools to lable me Internet wide as a "spammer". 2 websites briefly shutdown, 1 ISP investigating the accusation. I applaude your attempt to educate others on identifying spam, UCE, and possible actions to stop further nuisances clogging all of our Inboxes! I have no ill will toward you and definitely am not going to attempt to "scold" you! I am definitely not in a position to scold anyone but myself. Lessons learned the hard way. If someone begins to see spam/UCE starting to come into their Inbox regularly, there's a good chance there's an e-mail list obtained in a questionable fashion (harvested, extracted, etc.) that's being sold. I advise folks to find out from the marketers sending such spam/UCE just WHERE did they obtain the e-mail address from FIRST, prior to sending complaints all over the world. Shut it down at the source!!! Consult with your attorney concerning your legal options. Also, be careful of the actions one takes against an alledged "spammer"...some of it is illegal (harrassment, slander, etc.). The person(s) attacking me are in for a big surprise. Again, sir, please continue to educate others about spam and UCE, legal actions to take against offenders, list companies, etc., how to set their e-mail filters to block the junk and so on. I wish I had found your website prior to my recent experinence! It is now bookmarked (perfect examples of what is considered spam/UCE). Very Respectfully, William B. Doyle PSC 476 Box 64 FPO AP 96322-0064 (011) (81) 6117-52-7534 raccoon@sba.attmil.ne.jp raccoon@usonet.ne.jp --------------------------------------------------------------------------- REMOTE_HOST: 30.pool0.sasebo.attmil.ne.jp REMOTE_ADDR: 165.76.162.61 REMOTE_USER: REMOTE_IDENT: HTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98; DigExt)
I'd like to thank this individual for making this effort and sharing his experiences. It shows how spammers operate, shows that there is no honor among thieves. We get insight as to how spammers operate, even from the views of someone who is definately not a hard-core spammer. Sometimes good people do bad things, but when good people do bad things, they learn from the experience, grow and don't make the same mistake again. He realized his mistake, took responsibility and in my views, he did the right thing, despite doing a very wrong thing in the first place.
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