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From: "Scott Huffman" <scooty2@webkorner.com>
To: "'Chris Pickett'" <cpicket@ns.net>
Subject: RE: Spam complaints
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 12:59:21 -0400
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Well I must admit, you've help me to see a little more clearly.  

You're right.  We need proof that Calvin Enterprises is the real spammer.  How do you 
persuade a mail-relaying, like the Sweden server, to give over the logs?  How else can 
we get the proof against Calvin Enterprises?  You and I both know their the ones...just 
need the proof.  Again you're right.

I need to be smarter.

Thanks,

Scott Huffman

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From:  Chris Pickett[SMTP:cpicket@ns.net]
Sent:  Saturday, June 27, 1998 1:47 PM
To:  Scott Huffman
Subject:  RE: Spam complaints

On 6/26/98 23:49, Scott Huffman sent the following ASCII stream:

>Why want you complain about Calvin Enterprises?  They are the one's 
>harvesting e-mail address, forging headers, hijacking mail-servers and 
>sending Spam?  I want to combat SPAM just as much as you do and I don't 
>need the money that badly.  

Simple. I have this thing called the Attorney General who is assisting 
me. I have been instructed to NOT persue any spammer unless they spam me 
directly, which Calvin Enterprises has not actually done, or at least 
they keep hijacking ill-configured servers that don't show originating 
addresses.

If I were to complain, I would be doing so via your word of 
mouth(hearsay), which is not valid in a court of law. Also, Calvin 
Enterprises could currently SUE you for whatever they want for this 
slander. Why slander? We'll, they like to use third-party servers that 
don't show originating IP addresses, therefore there is no proof behind 
your argument. Unless one of these third-party servers checks their logs 
and tells me where it originated, I have strict instructs to not do 
anything further. When I get confirmation from a third-party server, then 
I'll take action, and at that point any lawsuit brought about by Calvin 
Enterprises will be nullified.

You have to think one step ahead of spammers. As we know, they only want 
money and are not concerned how to get it. I have to be extremely above 
board.

*   Chris Pickett, the amazing man with no life.  Owner of Studio42   *
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